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Middle-earth is a fictional place which is the setting for most of the stories of author J. R. R. Tolkien. These stories include The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Tolkien's stories chronicle the struggle to control the world (called Arda) and the continent of Middle-earth, between the angelic Valar, the Elves and their allies among Men; and the demonic Melkor or Morgoth (a Vala fallen into evil) and his minions, mostly Orcs, Dragons and enslaved men. In later ages, after Morgoth's defeat and expulsion from Arda, his role is continued by his acolyte Sauron. The Valar withdrew from direct involvement in the affairs of Middle-earth after the defeat of Morgoth, but in later years they sent the wizards or Istari to help in the struggle against Sauron. The most important of these were Gandalf the Grey and Saruman the White. Gandalf remained true to his mission and proved crucial in the fight for Sauron's destruction. Saruman however, became corrupted, and sought to establish himself as a rival to Sauron for absolute power in Middle-earth. Other races involved in the struggle against evil are Dwarves, Ents and most famously Hobbits. The early stages of the conflict are chronicled in Tolkien's work The Silmarillion, while the final stages of the struggle to defeat Sauron are dealt with in his works The Hobbit and the main text of The Lord of the Rings.

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Each race has it's origin, and each of those is different. In the beggining there was Eru, Iluvatar, the Creator. He has no beginning according to Tolkien's Legendarium and so from him come all other races. First he makes Ainur, the holy ones. He prepares to make a creation of Elves, then the Men. These races are blessed amongst the other races, who primarily come afterwards by other means.


The Valar are the first actual race, but do not really take regular appearance in Middle Earth, being considered Gods. They are the dominant Ainur, the other holy beings serving them (with the exception of Eru). They are spiritual form, but do take physical form when they speak to the peoples of Arda. They live in Aman. Each Valar have their own purpose, much like the mythological gods of Greece and Rome.

They are as follows:

Manwл is the chief of the Valar
Varda is the chief goddess of the Valier, Maker of the stars and spouse of Manwл]]
Aule is the smith and master of crafts.
Yavanna is the Goddess of nature
Vana is called the ever young. Spouse of Oromл and sister of Yavanna.
Oromл, for he is the god of the hunt.
Tulkas was greatest of the Valar in strenght and deeds of prowess.
Melkor, called Morgoth by the Noldor, he went astray and was jealous of the other Valar. Because of this he became the first Dark Lord and rebelled against the Valar, bringing evil into the world.
Ulmo, lord of the waters.
Nбmo Mandos, keeper of death in his famed halls.
Irmo Lуrien, lord of dreams


The Maiar are lesser Ainur, being servants to the Valar. They are seen more often carrying out tasks in middle earth. Most notable are: Sauron, servant of Melkor, Ossл, servant of Ulmo, Melian, who married the Elf, Elu Thingol. There are many Maia, and certainly more than the valar. Many are noted but some are just counted among the servants of the Valar. Notably among these are the Balrogs, demons of fire, who are possessed with spirits of Maiar.


The Istari are Maiar, sent by the Valar in the form of Men, or rather wizards, in order to aid the fight against evil. Being Maiar they have extraordinary capabilities, being able to turn the tide of many a battle. Because of their great power there need not be many of them, so there were five. They were led first by Saruman, The White, who headed the order. He later turned to evil and became Saruman of Many Colors, forsaking his position in the order. Replacing him was Gandalf, the Grey, who was later Gandalf, the White, signifying his leadership of the order. It was he who aided the Fellowship of the Ring in their quest to destroy the Ring of Power, also aiding defenders of Minas Tirith against Sauron's host, as well as many other deeds. The third is Radagast, the Brown, who was renowned for his love of nature and capability of conversing with it, but it is said he was distracted from his course. The last two are alluded to often as the Blue Wizards, whose names were Alatar and Pallando when they were in Valinor. It is said they went east and strayed into evil. Their names were then Morinehtar and Rуmestбmo, respectively. They are hardly spoken of after they went east. So of all the five Istari, only Gandalf Mithrandir stayed true to their original duty.


Elves, called the Firstborn of Illuvatar, were the first people of middle earth. They were created by Eru and are described generally as tall and fair, but have many specific characteristics. They were placed in middle earth and summoned for a journey to Aman. They are divided by those who refused, those who stopped along the way and those who made it to Aman.


Men were the secondborn, looking much like Elves but slightly less in stature, and not as fair. They never were accepted in Aman, but for a few special exceptions. They too are separated in loyalty, but still comprise a majority of those who are 'good', and are called Edain. Evil men include the Swarthy men or Easterlings. Later on they developed into more advanced peoples including the men of Gondor and Numenor, but some remained unsophisticated as those of Rohan and Harad. Being second they are cut off in smaller tribes at first, but later the dominion of Men surpasses Elves as the leaders of middle-earth.


Hobbits are an offshoot of men, but rather shorter than the 'Big Folk', as they call them. They have many defining characteristics that make them different from just short men and certainly not dwarves. While their exact origin is unknown, they are known as perhaps an offshoot of men. Not dealing in te affairs of other races they inhabit specific regions. There are several varieties including the Hobbits of the Shire and the Riverfolk


The Dwarves came last of the 'good' peoples, though they are not intrinsically good. They were made by Aulл, who in eagerness to create people of his own, made the Dwarves, despite the fact that he could not inspire life. Because of this he was forced to destroy them, but at the last moment Manwл had pity on them, and so the Dwarves came to existence. Short in stature and hardy, they keep to themselves and are prone to good or evil.


Ents are Shepherds of the trees, and though looking very much like them are certainly not trees. They stand as humans but tower in the treetops and are covered in foliage. They originally tended the trees in Beleriand and lived happily with their Entwives. However, after the new shaping of the world they were lost and the Ents slowly died out.


Orcs were originally created by Morgoth as a mockery of the Elves which Eru created. Fearing light they try to remain hidden or are provided for with dark clouds from their master. The making of Orcs was called Morgoth's most despicable act. How they come about is unknown; it is said they were created by tortured elves in Morgoth's dungeons, but how and of what frequency this happened is unknown. They, however, cannot be created of nothing, as only Eru can truly do this. Orcs spread wide as servants of evil. Some worked in manual service, many were warriors- basic troops that could spread fear and evil across the country, and others were wild, bound to evil service but going where they will.

Greater Orcs:

Greater Orcs are not spoken much of, except in the earlier tales of Arda. Generally they are stronger and larger than regular orcs.


Goblins are a smaller, more wild species of orc. Most of them dwell in caves, such as the infamous subterranean goblins of Moria. This by all means does not mean Goblins are completely bestial, and indeed were rather organized at times, especially under kings such as Azog. Additionally, Goblins do not always stay underground, but indeed prefer it as they hate light.


Uruk-hai are a larger breed of orcs made by Saruman after he turned to evil. They are larger and stronger than the average orc as well as more disciplined and intelligent (to certain degree), and probably most importantly they are not afraid of the sun. A cross between men and orc the name Uruk-Hai means 'orc-folk'. They had greater success than their smaller counterpart, but only came towards the end of the Third Age and Sauron's destruction.


Trolls were made by Morgoth in mockery of Ents, as orcs were of elves. They are large humanoid creatures that vary in type. Generally trolls too fear the sun and even turn to stone if exposed to it. Made before the first age many went into hiding and reappear in service of Sauron.

Cave Trolls:

Cave-trolls are a subterranean variety of troll, seen frequently in Tolkien's writings, particularly in the Battle of the Chamber of Mazarbul. They are incapable of speech and so are probably not considered an organized race, but none the less are still trolls.

Hill and Snow Trolls:

Hill and Snow Trolls are mentioned only a little in Tolkien's works, but none the less do make a presence. Their names give explanation to their appearance and dwelling, but for the most part they are like regular trolls. While they are not spoken of much, they do make prominent appearance in Electronic Art's The Battle for Middle-earth II - The Rise of the Witch-king


Olog-Hai were a larger, stronger and (slightly) more intelligent breed of of troll. Created by Sauron in the third age, their largest advantage to regular trolls perhaps is that they do not turn to stone in daylight. Olog-Hai are to normal trolls as Uruk-Hai are to normal orcs, and they are indeed to be feared.

Here follows beasts known to speak:


Dragons were created by Morgoth out of fire and sorcery some time before the First Age of the Sun, when Glaurung first appeared.

In the Third Age, there were only a few dragons still remain in Middle Earth.



The great Eagles played instumental role in the fight against evil, especially considering how lofty they were and the fact that they were still 'beasts'. These giant Eagles were sent from Valinor to aid the will of the Valar. This way the Ainur did not become physically involved in the affairs of Middle-Earth, but still could lend aid. This is of course not to say the Eagles would aid Elves and Men on a whim, but would generally only come at most dire need in order to change course of Middle-Earth.


The Ravens of Middle-Earth were also of extraordinary skill, but not in combat. Like the Eagles, they too bore tremendous eyesight and so were exceptional spies and scouts. Unlike Eagles they were not inclined specifically to good or evil, but were used by both. Known masters could be good, such as Radagast the Brown, but could also be Evil, such as when Saruman used the Crebain of Dunland to spy on the Fellowship. A small but useful tool, they could be effective in their own way.


The Wolves of Middle-Earth were a fearsome lot. Curious enough, they were all evil while Huan, a domestic hound, was a champion of good. At any rate, the wolves developed over the years into a variety of fearsome beasts, all terrifying.


Perhaps the fiercest Wolves of Middle-Earth, the Werewolves were a grotesque creation by Morgoth. Giant Wolves embodied with a tortured spirit, they were some of the fiercest beasts of Morgoth's reign. Famous among them were Draugluin and Carcharoth, both slain by Huan. Werewolves faded from the legendarium around the end of the First Age, probably destroyed in the War of Wrath.


Wargs were a lesser version of their predecessors, created by Sauron, most likely in remaking of the Werewolves which he used to command on Tol-in-Gaurhoth as Gorthaur. Many of these Wargs were enlisted as evil steeds, while others ran wild and grew into a large force of wild Wargs, who knew no allegiance, but were still inclined towards evil. They were known to speak, rarely, but in instances, such as those who attacked The Fellowship of the Ring in the chapter The Ring Goes South.


The giant Spiders of Middle-Earth were a widespread evil. They began when Ungoliant, an evil Maiar, took form of spider and aided Morgoth in destruction of Valinor. She then fled to Middle-Earth and bred amongst the spiders there, creating a giant ferocious breed that came to be known as the Children of Ungoliant. They long plagued Middle-Earth, and played notable roles in The Hobbit, where they ensnared the party of Dwarves, as well as when Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee encountered Shelob, last of the Children of Ungoliant, in The Two Towers. After Shelob this gruesome race died out.
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Fiecare rasă are originile sale, si fiecare este diferită.La început au fost Eru, Iluvatar, Creatorul. Conform Legendariumului lui Tolkien, Creatorul nu are început, şi toate rasele provin de la el.El pregăteşte crearea Elfilor, apoi a Oamenilor. Aceste rase sunt binecuvîntate printre celelalte rase, care vin mai tîrziu prin alte metode.


Valar este prima rasă, dar nu apar de obicei in Middle-Earth, fiind consideraţi zei. Ainur sunt dominanţi, celelate fiinţe sfinte servindu-i pe ei (in afară de Eru). Ei au formă spirituală, dar iau formă fizică cînd comunică cu popoarele din Arda. Ei trăiesc în Aman. Fiecare Valar are scopul său propriu, asemănător cu zeii mitologici ai Greciei şi Romei.

Ei sunt:
Manwë este liderul Valar
Varda este zeiţa-lider a Valar, Creatoarea stelelor şi soţia lui Manwë
Aule este fierarul şi maestrul meşteşugurilor
Yavanna este zeiţa naturii
Vana este numită veşnica tînără. Soţia lui Oromë si sora lui Yavanna
Oromë este zeul vînătorii
Tulkas a fost cel mai mare din Valar prin puterea şi isprăvile sale de dibăcie
Melkor, numit şi Morgoth de către Noldor, el s-a dus pe o cale greşită şi a fost gelos pe ceilalţi Valar.
din cauza asta el a devenit primul Lord Întunecat şi s-a revoltat impotriva Valar, aducînd răul pe lume
Ulmo, lordul apelor
Námo Mandos, paznicul morţii in sălile sale renumite
Irmo Lórien, lordul viselor


Maiar sunt Ainur minori, fiind servitori ai Valar. Ei sunt vazuţi mai des îndeplinind obligaţii in Middle-Earth. Cei mai notabili sunt: Sauron, slujitorul lui Melkor, ossë, slujitorul lui Ulmo, Melian, care s-a căsătorit cu elful Elu Thingol. Sunt mulţi Maia, şi sigur mai mulţi decît Valar. Mulţi sunt cunoscuţi, dar cîţiva se numără printre slujitorii ai Valar. Printre aceştia sunt Balrogi, demoni de foc, posedaţi de spiritele Maiar.


Istari sunt Maiar, trimişi de Valar in forme de oameni, sau vrăjitori, pentru a ajuta în lupta împotriva răului. Fiind Maiar, ei au capacităţi extraordinare, fiind capabili să schimbe cursul multor bătălii. Din cauza puterii lor mari, sunt deajuns puţini Istari, astfel au fost doar cinci. La început au fost conduşi de Saruman cel Alb, care era liderul ordinului. Mai tirziu el a devenit malefic, numindu-se Saruman de multe culori, renunţînd la locul său în ordin. Cel care l-a înlocuit a fost Gandalf cel Cenuşiu, mai tîrziu Gandalf cel Alb. El a ajutat Frăţia Inelului in misiunea lor pentru distrugerea Inelului Puterii, ajutînd ,de asemenea, apărarea oraşului Minas Tirith împotriva armatei lui Sauron, dar şi alte fapte importante. Al treilea este Radagast cel Cafeniu, cunoscut pentru dragostea sa către natură şi puterea de a conversa cu ea, dar se spune ca a fost distras din drumul său. Ultimii doi sunt cunoscuţi ca Vrăjitorii Albaştri, numiţi Alatar şi Pallando cind erau în Valinor. Se spune ca s-au dus către est şi către întuneric. Numele lor au devenit Moriehtar şi respectiv Rómestámo. Nu s-a mai vorbit despre ei dupa ce s-au dus înspre est. Astfel din cei cinci Istari, doar Gandalf Mithrandir a respectat datoria iniţială.


Numiţi şi primii născuţi ai lui Illuvatar, au fost primul popor din middle-earth. Au fost creaţi de Eru şi su caracterizaţi ca fiind înalţi şi frumoşi, dar cu multe caracteristici specifice. Au fost convocaţi pentru o călătorie spre Aman. Sunt împărţiţi în cei care au refuzat, cei care s-au oprit şi cei care au ajuns în Aman.


Oamenii au fost născuţi mai tîrziu, semănînd mult cu Elfii, însă mai scunzi şi mai puţin frumoşi. Nu au fost acceptaţi in Aman, cu cîteva excepţii. Şi ei sunt separaţi in loialitate, dar fac o majoritate din cei ce sunt 'buni', numiţi Edain. Oamenii negri, sau Easterlings, fac parte din cei asociaţi răului. Mai tîrziu s-au dezvoltat în popoare mai avansate, dintre care Gondor şi Numenor, alţii au rămas mai simpli, ca Rohan sau Harad. Fiind secunzi ei au fost despărţiţi în triburi la început,ajungînd să depăşească elfii ca lideri în Middle-Earth.


Provin de la oameni, însă sunt mai scunzi decît aceştia. Au multe caracteristici specifice care îi fac diferiţi de simpli oameni mici şi sigur de dwarfi. Ei nu se implică in afacerile altor rase şi locuiesc în regiuni particulare. Se împart în mai multe varietăţi, printre care Hobbiţii din Shire şi Riverfolk.


Au venit ultimii din popoarele 'bune', cu toate că nu sunt total buni. Au fost făcuţi de Aulë, care prin pasiunea sa de a crea oameni, a creat Dwarfi, chiar dacă el nu putea insufla viaţă. Astfel el a fost nevoit sa îi distrugă, dar în ultimul moment Manwë i-a compătimit, aşa Dwarfii au ajuns să existe. Scunzi de statură şi robuşti, ei se ţin între ei şi sunt înclinaţi către bine sau rău.


Enţii sunt Păstori ai copacilor, şi cu toate ca seamană mult cu ei, ei sigur nu sunt copaci. Ei stau ca oamenii dar se înalţă spre vîrfurile copacilor şi sunt acoperiţi de frunziş. La început ei vegheau pădurea în Beleriand şi trăiau fericiţi cu soţiile lor. Dar dupa noua formare a lumii soţiile au fost pierdute şi Enţii incet s-au stins.


Orcii au fost creaţi de Morgoth ca o batjocorire asupra Elfilor creaţi de Eru. Fiindu-le frică de lumină ei încearcă să se ascundă sau sunt protejaţi cu nori negri de către stăpînul lor. Crearea orcilor a fost cel mai josnic act al lui Morgoth. Cum ei au venit nu se ştie, se spune că au fost creaţi din elfi torturaţi în temniţele lui Morgoth, dar cum s-a întîmplat asta este necunoscut. Orcii sunt cunoscuţi servitori ai răului. Unii sunt folosiţi în lucru manual, alţii sunt soldaţi-trupe de bază care răspîndesc frica şi teroarea, şi alţii sunt sălbatici, legaţi de rău, însă se duc unde voiesc.

Orci Mari:

Nu se vorbeşte mult despre Orcii Mari, doar în primele poveşti ale Arda. În general ei sunt mai puternici şi mai mari decît orcii obişnuiţi.


Sunt o specie mai mică şi mai sălbatică a orcilor. Majoritatea populează peşteri, ca goblinii din Moria. Asta nu înseamnă că goblinii sunt complet bestiali, ei au fost chiar organizaţi din cînd în cînd, mai ales sub conducerea unor regi ca Azog. În plus, goblinii nu stau mereu sub pămînt, dar preferă astfel pentru că urăsc lumina.


Uruk-hai sunt o specie mai mare de orci creaţi de Saruman dupa ce acesta a devenit rău. Ei sunt mai mari şi mai puternici decît orcii obişnuiţi, dar şi mai disciplinaţi şi mai inteligenţi, dar cel mai important este că nu îi afectează lumina. Au avut mai mult succes decît rudelel lor mai mici, dar au fost creaţi spre sfîrşitul Erei a treia si sfîrşitul lui Sauron.


Au fost făcuţi de Morgoth ca o batjocorire asupra Enţilor, aşa cum orcii sunt o batjocorire a elfilor. Ei sunt creaturi mari de tipuri diferite. În general, şi trollii nu suportă soarele şi chiar se transformă in piatră dacă sunt expuşi la lumină. Creaţi înaintea primei Ere mulţi s-au ascuns şi au reapărut sub conducerea lui Sauron.

Trollii de peşteră:

Sunt o varietate subterană a trollilor, văzuţi des în scrierile lui Tolkien, mai ales în Bătălia din Camera Mazarbul. Ei nu sunt capabili de a vorbi şi nu sunt consideraţi o rasă organizată, dar oricum sunt trolli.

Trolli de Deal şi Zăpadă:

Ei sunt puţin menţionaţi în lucrările lui Tolkien. Numele lor explică înfăţişarea şi habitatul lor, dar în rest ei sunt ca trollii obişnuiţi.


Olog-Hai este o specie mai mare, puternică şi puţin mai inteligentă a trollilor. Creaţi de Sauron în a treia Eră, avantajul lor fiind că ei nu se petrifică la contactul cu lumina. Olog-Hai reprezintă pentru trolli ce reprezintă Uruk-Hai pentru orci.


Au fost creaţi de Morgoth din foc şi magie ceva timp înaintea primei Ere a Soarelui, cînd a apărut Glaurung.
În Era a Treia au rămas puţini dragoni în Middle-Earth


Vulturii au jucat un rol important în lupta împotriva răului. Ei au fost trimişi din Valinor. Astfel Ainur nu se implicau direct în treburile din Middle-Earth, dar puteau ajuta. Asta nu înseamnă că Vulturii i-ar ajuta pe oameni sau elfi imediat, dar ar veni la nevoie pentru a schimba cursul istoriei în Middle-Earth.


Ciorile din Middle-Earth au abilităţi extraordinare, dar nu în luptă. Ca Vulturii, ei au vedere foarte bună şi astfel au devenit spioni buni. Spre deosebire de vulturi, ei nu sunt înclinaţi spre bine sau rău, şi au fost folosiţi în ambele scopuri. Stăpînii lor puteau fi buni, ca Radagast cel Cafeniu, sau răi, ca Saruman, care a folosit Corbii din Dunland pentru a spiona asupra Frăţiei. O unealtă mică dar folositoare, ei eu fost eficace în modul lor propriu.


Lupii au fost un grup înfricoşător. Ei s-au dezvoltat cu timpul în o varietate de bestii teribile.


Posibil cei mai feroce lupi din Middle-Earth, Vîrcolacii sunt creaţia grotescă a lui Morgoth. Cei mai faimoşi au fost Draugluin şi Carcharoth, ucişi de Huan. Vîrcolacii au disparut din Legendarium spre sfîrşitul Primei Ere, probabil distruşi în Războiul Furiei.


Wargii au fost o versiune mai mică a predecesorilor, creaţi de Sauron. Majoritatea au fost folosiţi ca cai răi, iar alţii erau sălbatici şi se uneau în haite mari, care nu răspundeau nimănui, dar erau înclinaţi către rău.


Păianjenii giganţi au fost un rău foarte împrăştiat. Ei au început atunci cînd Ungoliant, un Maiar rău, a luat forma unui păianjen şi l-a ajutat pe Morgoth în distrugerea lui Valinor. Apoi a fugit în Middle-Earth şi a creat o specie feroce numiţi şi Copiii lui Ungoliant. Ei au populat Middle-Earth mult timp, şi au jucat roluri importante în Hobbit, cînd au prins Dwarfii, dar şi cănd Frodo şi Sam au înfruntat-o pe Shelob, ultima din copiii lui Ungoliant. Odată cu Shelob a murit şi rasa asta groaznică.
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Middle - Earth (Arda)

In J. R. R. Tolkien's legendarium, Arda is the name given to the Earth in a period of prehistory, wherein the places mentioned in The Lord of the Rings and related material once existed. It included several seas and oceans, and the continents of Middle-earth, the Dark Lands, and Aman, as well as the island of Nъmenor and other lands, left largely unnamed by Tolkien.

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#6726 by superleu (I SEE YOU) (0 mesaje) at 2013-11-24 14:18:48 (513 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6725 Zyper, eu tot am chrome, dar carei problema ca nu inteleg? am gasit problema ,la mine e XP

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#6727 by Zyper (Knight of TMD) (0 mesaje) at 2013-11-24 14:22:26 (513 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
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#6728 by superleu (I SEE YOU) (0 mesaje) at 2013-11-24 18:38:52 (513 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
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#6729 Delta21, lam vazut chiar in zilele cind a aparut , e funny :D

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#6731 by DiZaster (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 22:03:25 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Long read but worth it :

People really don't understand why Tauriel is in The Hobbit, or even what The Hobbit films are trying to do. Consider that these six movies represent Peter Jackson's "End of the Third Age Saga".
The Hobbit represents the redemption of Dwarf and Elf from the corruption of their respective races during the Third Age, and The Lord of the Rings represents the redemption of the race of men. The first three films set up the coming changes and rising evil, and the last three films conclude the defeat of that evil and begin the Fourth Age.
The prologue of the first movie tells of the downfall of the Dwarves of the Third Age. The whole trilogy is about their redemption. Bilbo gets the One Ring, which teaches him about that corruption, that lust for power or wealth. I suspect that this is what allows him to see this corruption for what it is in Thorin. The Arkenstone foreshadows the Ring. Bilbo cures Thorin of that corruption as seen in the acorn scene and later Bilbo's 'betrayal'. Instead of hoarding his treasure, Thorin risks it and his life ultimately to fight for his honor and his family. The treasure of Erebor was never gold, but rather the honor and loyalty of the Dwarves. This is how the Dwarves are symbolically redeemed to prepare of the Fourth Age, and Bilbo's role as an incorruptible agent, as well as the Ring's presence as a source (with the gold and Arkenstone) of corruption, parallel the story in LOTR. In particular, Bilbo's actions prove to Gandalf the role Hobbits will play in the world.
As for Tauriel, her role is essential to symbolize the symbolic redemption of the elves. Her age makes it so that she is closer to the true, original and uncorrupted, character of the Elves. Her behavior, though reckless and irksome to Thranduil, represents an Elfish innocence. Thranduil's heart is poisoned, scarred by the pain of love lost. His facial scar from the same wars in which he lost his wife represents this. He would rather not love, nor have ever loved, than have loved and lost.
Legolas loves Tauriel because her youthful spirit represents what is absent in Thranduil's heart. Legolas lost his mother, and Thranduil never speaks of it, so he's missing that too. This affection is highly symbolic for that portion of elfkind that still longs for what once was in terms of their race and it's character. In particular, before strife drove love and hope from the hearts of elves, and changed them. So, where gold and greed was the downfall of the Dwarves, lost hope and innocence was the downfall of the Elves - both befitting their racial character.
Kili is fond of Tauriel because he sees that spirit too. The beauty of the raw, less wise, more hopeful elves. Kili represents the opposite of Thorin: an heir of Thror who nonetheless longs for other things besides lost gold and glory. Their bond represents the purer aspects of each race longing for a return to innocence. A hope if you will, in a better tomorrow.
Now, it may have never worked out between them. The movies certainly leave that possibility open. But that doesn't mean that their brief bond and longing associated with it wasn't real enough.
Tauriel's role is very important. She is why Legolas leaves his kin, and ends up as part of the Fellowship ultimately (in this continuity). So, this is symbolic of that part of elfkind that still believes in hope, and these are they who did what they could in the War of the Ring, even as most Elves were leaving Middle Earth.
Tauriel says to Thranduil, "there is no life without love." And when Kili dies, and Thranduil sees Tauriel's pain, he finally sees what Legolas and Kili saw in Tauriel. He realizes that the reason lost love hurts so much is because it was worth it in the first place. Better to have loved and lost, if you will. This completely changes his character. Again, this is symbolic of a redemption of the Elves and their corruption during the Third Age, in preparation for the Fourth Age. Presumably, both Thranduil and Erebor played an important part in the War of the Ring (which Legolas alludes to talking with Gimli in ROTK).
For men, power corrupted them, and ultimately it's power and the One Ring which represent the corrupting influence of evil during the War.
So, what the Hobbit does is it paints a picture of Middle Earth that lets each race and land experience that transition which is culminated with the return of the King. It brings in other races and lands, and also lays a foundation. Not only have races fallen to evil during the end of the age, but evil itself has been permitted to rise.
The Hobbit is the beginning of the redemption of the good, and the rise of evil. LOTR culminates this arc, with good fully redeemed and evil fully risen. And the race of hobbits are the agents that bind together this arc of redemption and ultimately grant success to good over evil. That is, it is those elements characteristic to hobbits that inspire the redemption and allow the victory.
So, the Hobbits aren't saviors as such, but their nature is symbolic of what it is that cures the ills of the Third Age, and makes way for the Fourth.

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#6732 by superleu (I SEE YOU) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 23:21:54 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6731 DiZaster, nu schimba faptul ca Hobbit in pare parte e dazamagitor in comparatie cu LOTR, prea mult CGI, scenariu plictisitor uneori.La LOTR ma pot uita de sute de ori si mii interesant dar la Hobbit, nea. Max 2 ori imi ajunge peurma devine tare nudnii. Prima parte si o data in genere imi ajunge

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#6733 by DiZaster (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 23:35:36 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6732 superleu, yeah asta da, dar să fim serioși, chiar și cartea Lord of the Rings e mai interesantă. Hobbit e pentru copii și asta se observă în filme, au o atmosferă mai magică, iar LOTR e mai sumbru. Ultimul film mi-a plăcut, începi să simți tranziția spre Lord of the Rings pentru că e cel mai sumbru din toate 3.

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#6734 by superleu (I SEE YOU) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 23:36:18 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6733 DiZaster, oricum prea multa lumina, trabuia sa fie mai cenusiu

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#6735 by DiZaster (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 23:40:46 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6734 superleu, posibil. Oricum, sunt sigur că degrabă o să apară ceva de tipul la Fan Cut. O mulțime de oameni vor să scoată tot trashul din toate filmele ca să creeze din 3 un film sau două..poate o să fie ceva mai nice ca acum.

P.S. Numai eu am o poftă dibilă să reprivesc LOTR?

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#6736 by Delta21 (Ciuperca) (1 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 23:41:22 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6735 DiZaster, "...
..." - LOTR ROCKS :D Caută un proiector.

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#6737 by DiZaster (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-27 23:43:28 (457 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6736 Delta21, poate veniți toți aici în Londra? Vreo 2 luni în urmă un cinematograf a făcut o noapte Lord of the Rings. Toate 3 filme extended una după alta. 12 ore la cinema pleo :D (apropo ei o să repete asta 100 procente)

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#6738 by DiZaster (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-31 15:38:21 (456 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
La mulți ani! Să vă fie spiritul lui Morgoth mereu cu voi și să reușim să distrugem hagemonia oamenilor și a forțelor lui Eru Illuvatar în Arda!

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#6739 by superleu (I SEE YOU) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-31 16:15:48 (456 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6738 DiZaster, Trebuie tusa in Mordor de facut sau in Erebor taman lam cucerit si este disponibil pe noaptea de 31 :D

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#6740 by DiZaster (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-31 17:49:15 (456 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#6739 superleu, DJ Sauron and MC Smaug in the club!

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#6741 by superleu (I SEE YOU) (0 mesaje) at 2014-12-31 17:58:42 (456 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top

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#6742 by Lividius (NazguL® Fiodorovici) (0 mesaje) at 2015-03-07 19:16:13 (447 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
bună, nu aveți cumva harta middle earth în format mare, aș dori să fac un tablou

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#6743 by Lividius (NazguL® Fiodorovici) (0 mesaje) at 2015-03-13 19:04:06 (446 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
nu mă năvăliți cu hărți, vă rog )))

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#6744 by Delta21 (Ciuperca) (1 mesaje) at 2015-03-13 19:16:42 (446 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Format fizic sau digital? :D

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#6745 by Delta21 (Ciuperca) (1 mesaje) at 2015-06-11 20:26:48 (433 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top

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#6746 by CoffeePeopleParticipant la concursul Poetry Contest (- All monsters are Human -) (0 mesaje) at 2015-06-12 11:11:49 (433 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
R.I.P Saruman (Christopher Lee)

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#6747 by Smeagol (...My Precious...) (0 mesaje) at 2016-01-18 03:48:38 (401 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
sufla vantu pe aici :(

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#6748 by Delta21 (Ciuperca) (1 mesaje) at 2016-01-19 12:42:43 (401 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
După ce ne-o părăsit Saruman, n-ai ce face :)

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#6749 by Delta21 (Ciuperca) (1 mesaje) at 2018-02-25 20:19:36 (291 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
*ding* Poate facem un maraton de vizionare? *ding*

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#6750 by Delta21 (Ciuperca) (1 mesaje) at 2022-01-08 11:01:28 (90 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
*ding* Poate facem un maraton de vizionare? *ding*

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