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#0 by DeterOK (Cowards die in shame) (0 mesaje) at 2009-05-30 19:37:47 (777 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top



Am răsfoit topicurile prin tmd, şi am văzut că nu este o temă despre alternativerock, şi am făcut-o. Ştiu că tineretu cam e nebun pe house şi pop, dar oricum sper că sunt şi admiratori ai acestui foarte frumos gen de muzică. Aşa că nu vă fie frică. Împărtăşiţi-vă cu părerile şi gusturile voastre
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Alternative rock (also called alternative music, alt-rock or simply alternative; known primarily in the UK as indie) is a genre of rock music that emerged in the 1980s and became widely popular in the 1990s. Alternative rock consists of various subgenres that have emerged from the independent music scene since the 1980s, such as grunge, Britpop, gothic rock, and indie pop. These genres are unified by their collective debt to the style and/or ethos of punk rock, which laid the groundwork for alternative music in the 1970s. At times alternative rock has been used as a catch-all phrase for rock music from underground artists in the 1980s, and all music descended from punk rock (including punk itself, New Wave, and post-punk).

While a few artists like R.E.M. and The Cure achieved commercial success and mainstream critical recognition, many alternative rock artists during the 1980s were cult acts that recorded on independent labels and received their exposure through college radio airplay and word-of-mouth. With the breakthrough of Nirvana and the popularity of the grunge and Britpop movements in the 1990s, alternative rock entered the musical mainstream and many alternative bands became commercially successful.
The music now known as alternative rock was known by a variety of terms before "alternative" came into common use. "College rock" was used in the United States to describe the music during the 1980s due to its links to the college radio circuit and the tastes of college students. In the United Kingdom the term "indie" was (and still is) preferred; by 1985 the term "indie" had come to mean a particular genre, or group of subgenres, rather than a simple demarcation of status."Indie rock" was also largely synonymous with the genre in the United States up until the genre's commercial breakthrough in the early 1990s, due to the majority of the bands belonging to independent labels.

By 1990 the genre was called "alternative rock". The term "alternative" had originated sometime around the mid-1980s; it was an extension of the phrases "new music" and "post modern", both for the freshness of the music and its tendency to recontextualize the sounds of the past, which were commonly used by music industry of the time to denote cutting edge music. Individuals who worked as DJs and promoters during the 1980s claim the term originates from American FM radio of the 1970s, which served as a progressive alternative to top 40 rock radio formats by featuring longer songs and giving the DJs more freedom in their song selections. One former DJ and promoter has said, "Somehow this term 'alternative' got rediscovered and heisted by college radio people during the 80s who applied it to new post-punk, indie, or underground-whatever music . . ." Thus the original use of the term was often broader than it has come to be understood, encompassing punk rock, New Wave, post-punk, and even pop music, along with the occasional "college"/"indie" rock, all music found on the American "commercial alternative" radio stations of the time such as Los Angeles' KROQ-FM.The use of the term "alternative" gained popular exposure during 1991 with the implementation of alternative music categories in the Grammy Awards and the MTV Video Music Awards, as well as the success of Lollapalooza, where festival founder and Jane's Addiction frontman Perry Farrell coined the term "Alternative Nation".
Defining music as "alternative" is often difficult because of two often conflicting applications of the word. "Alternative" can describe music that challenges the status quo and that is "fiercely iconoclastic, anticommercial, and antimainstream," but the term is also used in the music industry to denote "the choices available to consumers via record stores, radio, cable television, and the Internet."
"Alternative rock" is essentially an umbrella term for underground music that has emerged in the wake of the punk rock movement since the mid-1980s. Throughout much of its history, alternative rock has been largely defined by its rejection of the commercialism of mainstream culture. Alternative bands during the 1980s generally played in small clubs, recorded for indie labels, and spread their popularity through word of mouth. As such, there is no set musical style for alternative rock as a whole, although The New York Times in 1989 asserted that the genre is "guitar music first of all, with guitars that blast out power chords, pick out chiming riffs, buzz with fuzztone and squeal in feedback." Sounds range from the dirty guitars of grunge to the gloomy soundscapes of gothic rock to the guitar pop revivalism of Britpop to the shambolic performance style of twee pop. More often than in other rock styles, alternative rock lyrics tend to address topics of social concern, such as drug use, depression, and environmentalism. This approach to lyrics developed as a reflection of the social and economic strains in the United States and United Kingdom of the 1980s and early 1990s.

Although alternative artists of the 1980s never generated spectacular album sales, they exerted a considerable influence on later alternative musicians and laid the groundwork for their success.The popular and commercial success of Nirvana's 1991 album Nevermind took alternative rock into the mainstream, establishing its commercial and cultural viability. As a result, alternative rock became the most popular form of rock music of the decade and many alternative bands garnered commercial and critical success. However, many of these artists rejected success, for it conflicted with the rebellious, DIY ethic the genre had espoused before mainstream exposure and their ideas of artistic authenticity. As many of the genre's key groups broke up or retreated from the limelight, alternative rock declined from mainstream prominence.

In the first decade of the 21st century, mainstream rock has largely moved beyond alternative's 1980s roots and low-fidelity ethos. In 2004, alternative rock received renewed mainstream attention with the popularity of indie rock and post-punk revival artists such as Modest Mouse and Franz Ferdinand, respectively.

RO: Rock-ul alternativ (numit şi muzică alternativă sau simplu alternativ) este un gen al muzicii rock ce a apărut în anii 1980 dar a devenit mai cunoscut în anii 1990. Ca gen muzical rock-ul alternativ este alcătuit din mai multe subgenuri care au luat naştere pe scena muzicii independente începând din 1980 ca şi grunge, britpop, gothic rock şi indie pop. Chiar dacă acest gen este considerat a fi rock unele din subgenurile sale sunt influenţate de muzica folk, reggae, muzica electronică sau jazz.

În timp ce puţini artişti ca şi R.E.M. şi The Cure au avut succes comercial şi au fost recunoscuţi la scară largă, multe formaţii de rock alternativ în anii 1980 au fost promovate foarte slab. O data cu succesul înregistrat de Nirvana şi mişcările grunge şi britpop la Începutul anilor 1990 rock-ul alternativ a intrat pe scena muzicii şi astfel multe formaţii de rock alternativ au avut succes.
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Rog fiecare persoana sa expuna 3 piese alternrock preferate cel mai mult pu a incleia un torrent

TMD choice
30 Second To Mars - Atack
3 Doors Down - Here Without You
30 Seconds To Mars - From Yesterday
30 Seconds To Mars - The Kill
7000$ - Про Love
A Perfect Circle - Blue
A Perfect Circle - Sleeping Beauty
A Perfect Circle - The Noose
A Perfect Circle - What's Going on
Alternosfera - Flori de mai
Alternosfera - Ploile Nu Vin
Anathema - A Natural Disaster
Apocalyptica - I Don't Care
Apocalyptica Feat. Corey Taylor - I'm Not Jesus
Arcade Fire - no cars go
Archive - Again
Archive - Fuck You
Audioslave - Be Yourself
Barcelona - It's About Time
Billy Talent - Rusted From The Rain
Billy Talent - Surrender
Black Light Burns - Cruel Melody
Blackmail - Moonpigs
Bliss 66 - If We Could 
Blur - Beetlebum
Brainstorm - Ветер
Breaking Benjamin - Breakdown
Breaking Benjamin - Diary Of Jane
Breaking Benjamin - Rain
Breaking Benjamin - Fade Away
Breaking Benjamin - Give Me A Sign
Breaking Benjamin - Hopeless
Carolina Liar - I'm Not Over
Chevelle - Letter From a Thief
Chevelle - The Red
Cold - Suffocate
Coldplay - Clocks
Coldplay - Trouble
Crystallized Movements - This Wideness Comes
Dead By Sunrise - Let Down
Death Cab for Cutie - A Movie Script Ending
Deftones - Pink Maggit
Depeche Mode - Dream On
Dredg - Jamais Vu
Dredg - Ode to the Sun
Dredg - Quotes
Dredg - Symbol Song
Finger Eleven - Living In A Dream
Flyleaf - Again
Flyleaf - All around me
Foo Fighters - The Pretender
Garbage - I Think I'm Paranoid
Gravenhurst - Velvet Cell
Green Day - 21 Guns
Guano Apes - Open Your Eyes
Hypnogaja - Here Comes The Rain Again
I'm still here  - Goo goo dolls
Incubus - Drive
Incubus - Wish You Were Here
Jack's Mannequin - Mixed Tape
Jimmy Eat World - The Middle
Keane - Somewhere Only We Know
Keith - Triptopax Photos
Kings of Leon - Closer
Kings of Leon - Use Somebody
Lifehouse - Broken
Lifehouse - It Is What It Is
Limp Bizkit - Boiler
Limp Bizkit - Eat You Alive
Limp Bizkit - Faith
Limp Bizkit - Underneath the gun
Limp Bizkit - Why
Limp Bizkit - Behind Blue Eyes
Linkin Park - Forgotten
Linkin Park - Leave Out All The Rest
Linkin park - My december
Linkin Park - The Little Things Give You Away
Linkin Park - Leave Out All The Rest
Marylin Manson - Sweet Dreams (Are made of this)
Metallica - The Day that Never Comes
Metric - Help, I'm Alive
Modest Mouse - The World at Large
Moonshake - City Posion
Muse - Bliss
Muse - Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Muse - Feeling Good
Muse - Fury
Muse - Hyper Music
Muse - MK Ultra
Muse - Resistance
Muse - Sunburn
Muse - Undisclosed Desires
Muse - Uprising
Muse - Falling down
Muse-One
My Darkest Days - Can`t forget you
Nickelback - Figured You Out
Nickelback - Burn it to the ground
Nickelback - This Afternoon
Nirvana - You know you're right
No Address - Lasting Words 
Oasis - Don't Look Back In Anger
Oasis - Wonderwall
Offspring - Why don't you get a job
Papa roach - Lifeline 
Paramore - Brick By Boring Brick
Paramore - Decode
Paramore - Emergency (Alternate Version)
Paramore - Ignorance
Paramore - The Only Exception
Paramore - Misery business
Placebo - Battle For The Sun
Placebo - Blind
Placebo - Centrefolds
Placebo - Every You, Every Me ; Placebo - Protege Moi
Placebo - Protege Moi
Pleymo - On Ne Changera Rien
Porcupine Tree - Trains
Radiohead - Creep
Radiohead - Just
Radiohead - Karma Police
Radiohead - Let Down
Radiohead - Street Siprit
Radiohead - There There
Radiohead- Paranoid Android
Radiohead - You
Reamonn - Sometimes
Red - Shadows
Red - Start Again
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Scar Tissue
Remy Zero Video - Fair
Seether & Amy Lee - Broken
Silversun Pickups - Panic Switch
Skillet - The Last Night
Skillet - Comatose
Snails - Taci
Switchfoot - Learning to Breathe
The All-American Rejects - It Ends Tonight
The Cardigans - Erase Rewind
The Click Five - Happy Birthday
The Cranberries - Fee Fi Fo
The Cure - Friday i'm in love
The Donnas - Take It Off
The Fray - Never Say Never
The Killers - A White Demon Love Song
The Kooks - One Last Time
The Postal Service - Such Great Heights
The Smiths - Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
The Subways - Girls & Boys
The Subways - Rock and Roll Queen
The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
Three days Grace - I Hate
Three Days Grace - Last To Know
Three Days Grace - Never Too Late
Three Days Grace - Breake
Tiger Lou - Sell Out
Weezer - Pork And Beans
White Lies - E.S.T.
White Lies - Unfinished Business
Won James Won - Fat Bastord at the Gates of Elenium
World Leaders Pretend - Bang Theory
Звери - Дожди-пистолеты
Китай - Осень
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#201 by andriuscaa (*Rock it's my Lyfe*) (0 mesaje) at 2009-06-23 11:08:14 (774 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#199 zaratustra, mersi

#199 zaratustra, nul gasesc undei pune silka !!


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#202 by Eklezeark (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-20 14:56:40 (770 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
apropo, cine vrea ultimul album al formatiei "Dredg"
http://www.torrentsmd.com/details.php?returnto=%2Fmytorrents.php&id=752430


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#203 by LastSamuray (Zetsuboushita) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-18 22:09:09 (766 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
skillet new album now in internet

listened it, are few good songs , in rest ,it's weak


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#204 by LPunit (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-22 14:42:30 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Вообще, щас альтернатива очень популярна для молодёжи.И сам слушаю альтернативу, но ет не та альтернатива, которая зародилась в 90-х годах, щас альтернатива похожа немного и на метал, потому что многие группы (пример Slipknot) играют металл , но они альтернатива потмоу что в группе есть DJ.Щас очень много групп смешивают рок и DJ музыку, пример к этому является наш любимый Linkin Park :)

Вообще в альтернативу входят очень много поджанров, так что ето движение надолго сядет в рок культуре :)


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#205 by ChuckBerry (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-23 11:14:03 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top

LPunit wrote:

Вообще, щас альтернатива очень популярна для молодёжи.


она и на молодёжь и расчитана

LPunit wrote:

которая зародилась в 90-х годах


вообще-то альтернатива зародилась в 80-х

LPunit wrote:

потому что многие группы (пример Slipknot) играют металл , но они альтернатива потмоу что  в группе есть DJ


Слипы давно метал не играют,они щас еле-еле до хард рока дотягиваются,не обзяательно нужно быть альтернативой,если у тебя есть диджей,Продиджи ,что тоже альтернатива??

LPunit wrote:

Вообще в альтернативу входят очень много поджанров, так что ето движение надолго сядет в рок культуре :)


какие? альтернативный рок и альтернативный метал? много поджанров =/ альтернатива и есть поджанр,а ещё метаЛ пишется с одной буквы Л..извини если что


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#206 by LPunit (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-23 12:10:06 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#205 ChuckBerry, "...
какие? альтернативный рок и альтернативный метал? много поджанров =/ альтернатива и есть поджанр,а ещё метаЛ пишется с одной буквы Л..извини если что ..." - Сорри, я имел ввиду, что в альтернативном роке можно услышать и металл, и хеви, и арт рок,и классику.Тоесть если мы говорим про альтернативу, там имееться много жанров)


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#207 by ChuckBerry (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-23 14:48:16 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#206 LPunit, ну наверное =/


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#208 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-23 15:05:30 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
вы оба интересные личности, какие же вы "альтернатив рок" группы слушаете?


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#209 by ChuckBerry (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-23 19:44:05 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#208 seabear, то,что ласт прописал тут http://www.lastfm.ru/tag/alternative%20rock всякие там
Muse,Placebo,Radiohead,Incubus,The Smashing Pumpkins,Red Hot Chili Peppers


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#210 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-24 11:46:39 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#209 ChuckBerry, ну а настоящую алтернативу не старались слушать? есть же такие замечательные группы ак Nick Cave and the Bad seeds; The Breeders; Sonic Youth может быть. Тут много крутых, даже у Beck можно найти чего-то интересного, или там у Weezer.


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#211 by RaToR (Pokémon Master) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-25 19:36:36 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
http://www.myspace.com/streetsymphonymd

Тут мои друзья поют!!! им по 18 лет а уже знаменитые на концертах, советую по слушать песни!!!!


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#212 by LPunit (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-27 12:37:22 (765 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#208 seabear, "... вы оба интересные личности, какие же вы "альтернатив рок" группы слушаете? ..." -

Ну....я похож на рокерсково мелломана(тоесть весь рок подряд слушаю XD)

Из чистого альтернатив рока нравиться The Posies,Muse, и так далее.....Не всегда запонимаю Артистов на треках...


Вообще, как я раньше писал, слушаю из рока Альтернативу и Метал,(в моём понятие альтернатива есть гранж,тоесть Нирвана :),ещё Nu metal,тоже альтернатива,пример етому Linkin Park,Drowing Pool, и так далее......,и классический рок,ну не прям классика, а спокойный рок с елементами красок харда рока.....)

Про метал писать не буду, потому что писать долго про метал, одно скажу любителям метала, если вы Металику не слушаете, вы не метталисты XD


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#213 by ChuckBerry (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-28 19:24:13 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#210 seabear, знаю про настоящую альтернативу,Ника Кейва люблю,Пиксис вот и РЕМ тоже считаются "настоящей альтернативой",их вот люблю

LPunit wrote:

Про метал писать не буду, потому что писать долго про метал, одно скажу любителям метала, если вы Металику не слушаете, вы не метталисты XD



после такого сообщения сразу понимаешь о тебе всё,не в обиду


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#214 by LastSamuray (Zetsuboushita) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-28 21:41:33 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#212 LPunit, "... Про метал писать не буду, потому что писать долго про метал, одно скажу любителям метала, если вы Металику не слушаете, вы не метталисты XD ..." - ololo


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#215 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-29 19:42:34 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#213 ChuckBerry, ну а как сильно любишь ты пиксиз?
Мне кажется они будут неуместны тут, но Pulp ебашили в свое время сильно, поверь мне, наверное только из за них хотел бы жить в 90ые в Лондоне.


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#216 by ChuckBerry (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-30 10:51:50 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#215 seabear, а как можно любить группу? просто нравятся и всё.хотя,честно,слушал их только в основном из-за трека Where`s My Mind?,который был саундтреком в моём одном любимом фильме.
почему неуместны,они тоже в своём роде альтернативный рок и всё такое..
Pulp* никогда про них не слышал,но вижу,что на них похожи Blur,а этих я люблю)
ну в Британии ваще много крутых групп было в 90-е


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#217 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-08-31 20:32:05 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#216 ChuckBerry, мир умер в девяностые.


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#218 by frodob (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-03 15:49:54 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Weah am citit acest topik numai ce si mam mirat ca nu sa scris absolut nimik despre Radiohead una din cele mai succes trupe din acest gen. Acest fapt mia demonstrat ca la noi totusi acest gen nui prea dezvoltat. Nu agitez la nimeni deoarece eu is pt libertatea de ascultare dar faptul ca fiecare album a lor primea nominatie la Grammy (Iar 2 albume au si primit) iar cei de la jurnalul Rollings Stouns au numit-o "Впереди планеты всей" pentru originalitatea lor, face macar o mentiune in topik.

Eu singur sint fan infocat al rockului alternativ si ascult Radiohead, Nirvana, Coldplay, Muse, Alternosfera si multe altele.
Deja am si dovedit sa iau in cap din cauza asta deoarece la noi in sat is pamesanie pe rap si mai ales manele, iar cind au auzit in casti ce cinta (Coldplay).... pur si simplu nu le place la bîcarae cind cineva se deosebeste de dinsii. Bravo la toti ce asculta aceasta muzica de neuitat si neoprit.

P.S. Multumesc pentru sfaturi voi incepe sa ascult si alte trupe de aici din topik pe care nu leam auzit :band: :music:


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#219 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-03 17:44:36 (764 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#218 frodob, 1. in mare parte radiohead are buncha scumbags.
2. nu inteleg de ce te conduci dupa rollingstonesul rus :smile: in caz daca nui asa, de ce il citesti in rusa? nu stii engleza? atunci nu cred ca are sens sa asculti cantecele lor.
3. unicul album lor de succes, ei cum de succes, cel mai catchy, e Kid A.
4. Let me hear BOF SIDES
let me hear BOF SIDES.
let me hear.


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#220 by frodob (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-03 23:43:59 (763 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#219 seabear, OK umnikule din cauza la asa indivizi ca tine multe persoane adecvate nu doresc sa stea pe forumuri. Eu doar mi-am expus parerea (dak se poate se zis asa) Asa ca ma dezic si de acest topik (mort) si ramine tu singur aici verificind din ora in ora oare nu a mai scris cineva aici.

SI in genere mii pofig ce parere ai tu in principiu ca si altor IMHO


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#221 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-04 16:01:49 (763 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#220 frodob, da, din cauza mea persoane ca tine nu doresc sa ma 'stea' pe forumuri. suchapity(


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#222 by FucKuRBrAiN (All is vanity...) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-04 21:48:54 (763 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
hum...din alternativa prefer mai mult Coma,Alternosfera s.a., insa am progresat la ceva mai greu)
PS- pu mine SOAD nu se prea asociaza cu alternativa...but nvm))


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#223 by LPunit (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-06 19:46:03 (763 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#213 ChuckBerry, "... LPunit wrote:

Про метал писать не буду, потому что писать долго про метал, одно скажу любителям метала, если вы Металику не слушаете, вы не метталисты XD



после такого сообщения сразу понимаешь о тебе всё,не в обиду ..." - тоесть, понимаешь обо мне всё?Знаю что металлику, не все любят, но от неё истоков произошёл метал, много нынешных групп, все слушали Металлику, потому что Металлика для тяжелого рока, не то что прародитель, не соглашусь что она прародитель, но они в своё время были популярны как, The Beatles.


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#224 by seabear (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-06 22:25:30 (763 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#223 LPunit, да ладно тебе, та же металлика перепела к примеру песню Ника Кейва "Loverman".
Намного хуже, поверь.


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#225 by LPunit (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-09-22 22:30:01 (761 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#224 seabear, "... #223 LPunit, да ладно тебе, та же металлика перепела к примеру песню Ника Кейва "Loverman".
Намного хуже, поверь. ..." - на вкус и цвет,товарища нет )))


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