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#0 by AzerothX (†ranœ ºverdosed) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 09:15:11 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Imi spune va rog shi mie ce prostie va mai fi invenentata in urmaotrul an? , eu de exempluam ris cind am auzit de asta , unu e gay , altu e hetero , da iaka ashela ii kam la nijlok :D , de ar fi amu stalin sau cineva (nu-s comunist :) ) , v-ar rupe pe totzi in bucatzi , nu suntetzi barbatzi , suntetzi inversul , in loc sa va uitatzi cum sa aratatzi voi mai bine , uitatziva le fete el cum arata mai mult , sigur nu spun nimic de igiena personala da nu s te dai cu lac pe unghii.......... , shi idn cite shtiu eu , fetelor normale le plac barbatzii , nu papa lapte , e cineva de acord sau contra mine? :)


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#51 by regnumekal (User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:23:01 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Metrosexual is a word describing men who have a strong concern for their aesthetic appearance, and spend a substantial amount of time and money on their images and lifestyles. Though the term has undergone a transformation from its original meaning (a heterosexual man who appeared or acted as if he were homosexual or bisexual), current trends have seen the metrosexual label placed upon male embracing of practices usually perceived to be feminine, rather than those specifically associated with stereotypically effeminate homosexuals. Debate surrounds the term's use as a theoretical signifier of gender deconstruction and its associations with consumerism. Current gender scholars view metrosexuality as representative of the embracing of relational understanding in addition to its lifestyle and aesthetic implications.

Evolution of the word
The origin of the term traces to an article titled "Here come the mirror men," dissecting the new urbane man by Mark Simpson, published on November 15, 1994 in The Independent, a major British daily. Barely any usage of the term in print publications can be found in the same decade. Simpson returned to the subject in 2002 in an essay for the online magazine Salon.com called "Meet the Metrosexual," introducing the term to the US online public. The article was much forwarded and percolated around the Web. By May of the following year, the term was in frequent use in British press articles. In June, a New York Times article, titled "Metrosexuals Come Out", which credited Simpson as coining the term in 1994 but didn't mention his Salon.com essay of the previous year, inaugurated a host of copycat articles in the American media. Various sources incorrectly claim that the origin of the term was a 1994 article by trendspotter Marian Salzman, but by Salzman's own admission [1] Simpson's use of the term in a 1994 Salon.com article predates her use of the term. The term is discussed in detail in Simpson's book Male Impersonators, which explores the performativity of male life, incorporating the concept of the metrosexual into both the academic and popular lexicon. On June 22, 2003, Simpson widely criticized Salzman in The Independent for her exploitative use of the term without mention of Simpson. Salzman has since recanted.

A former local radio Metro Radio presenter Mitch Murray claims he is the progenitor in the 1980s. The word had a very different connotation at the time as it was simply a play on words involving 'Metro Radio' and heterosexuals. From his home in the Isle of Man, Murray would send a weekly tape via Datapost to the local radio station in Newcastle upon Tyne containing bits and pieces of celebrity interviews, sketches and various other humorous stuff he would concoct. The engineers at Metro Radio would play music in between them. Very early during the process, he made a few station identification segments one of which he says included the phrase 'We are the Metrosexuals'. [unclear from this whether the segment was actually broadcast][2]

Rising popularity of the term followed the increasing integration of gay men into mainstream society and a correspondingly decreased taboo towards deviation from existing notions of masculinity. Over a short timespan, the Netherlands, Belgium and Canada introduced same-sex marriage legislation, various US states legalized same-sex marriage and civil unions, the US Supreme Court struck down anti-sodomy statutes as unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas and gay characters and themes, long present on TV shows like Will & Grace, Queer as Folk, and Ellen made further inroads. In particular, the Bravo network introduced Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, a show in which stereotypically style- and culture-conscious gay men gave advice to their heterosexual counterparts.

Media explaining the term often rely on citing a few individuals as prime illustrations. Simpson's 2002 Salon.com article 'Meet the metrosexual' used Beckham as its prime exemplar - and most journalists and marketers followed suit. David Beckham or Tom Egger have been called a "metrosexual icon"[3] and is often coupled with the term. Amply referred-to individuals include personalities such as Brad Pitt, Arnold Schwarzenegger[4], Ian Thorpe[5] and George Clooney, though even Donald Rumsfeld has been mentioned as a metrosexual in "an antediluvian way."[6]


Its most accurate application in contemporary American media might have been a 60 minutes story on Joe Namath whereby he was suggested by reporter Bob Simon to be "perhaps, America's first metrosexual" [7] after filming his most famous ad sporting Beautymist panty hose.


[edit] Other terms
Over the course of the following months, other terms countering or substituting for "metrosexual" appeared. Perhaps the most widely used was "retrosexual," a man who rejects focus on physical appearance, sort of the opposite of a metrosexual (again coined by Simpson, who described the term in a Salon.com article entitled "Beckham, the virus."[8]

Another example, the übersexual, coined by marketing executives and authors of The Future of Men (and perhaps inspired by Simpson's use of the word 'uber-metrosexual'), caused Simpson to reply, “Any discussion in the style pages of the media about what is desirable and attractive in men and what is 'manly' and what isn't, is simply more metrosexualization. Metrosexuality—do I really have to spell it out?—is mediated masculinity.”[9]

Many of the individuals now named übersexuals — e.g. George Clooney, Ewan McGregor, Bono—were once shining examples of metrosexuality, showing little differentiation between the two terms.

Laurence Godfrey is said to favour the descriptions "sumosexual" and "tyrosexual" since learning that "retrosexual" is in use elsewhere.[citation needed]

None of these metro-offspring have thrived, metrosexual however seems to have stuck and become part of the language.

Metrosexual is also a term joked upon people in Mexico City, as the subway system for the area is called Metro; this led to a non-related association that the word means person who has sex in the subway.

[edit] Narcissism
Narcissism according to an authoritative Simpson, plays a crucial role in the metrosexual concept. As Simpson writes in 'Narcissus goes shopping' ('Male Impersonators', 1994), consumerism and narcissism are closely related. Citing Freud's On Narcissism, Sigmund Freud which analyzes the psychological aspect of narcissism and explains narcissistic love as follows:

"A person may love: (1) According to the narcissistic type: (a) What he is himself, (b) What he once was, (c) What he would like to be, (d) Someone who once was part of himself."[10]
The metrosexual, in its original coinage, is a person who, under the spell of consumerism, is or desires to be what he sees in magazines and advertising. Simpson’s metrosexual would be a type A or type C narcissist, as he loves himself or an idealized image of what he would like to be.


[edit] Changing masculinity
Traditional masculine norms, as described in Dr. Ronald F. Levant’s Masculinity Reconstructed are: “avoidance of femininity; restricted emotions; sex disconnected from intimacy; pursuit of achievement and status; self-reliance; strength and aggression; and homophobia.”[11]

Statistics, including market research by Euro RSCG, show that the pursuit of achievement and status is not as important to men as it used to be; and neither is, to a degree, the restriction of emotions or the disconnection of sex from intimacy. Another norm change is supported by research that claimed men “no longer find sexual freedom universally enthralling.” The most important shift in masculinity is that there is less avoidance of femininity and the “emergence of a segment of men who have embraced customs and attitudes once deemed the province of women.”[12] What is accepted as "masculine" has shifted considerably throughout the times, so the modern concept of how a man "should be" differs from the ideal man of previous eras. Some styles and behaviors that are today considered feminine were, in the past, part of the man's domain (e.g. knee britches, makeup, jewelry). Hence, as the concept of femininity conquered more territory, masculinity became more restricted.[citation needed] Perhaps metrosexuality is a reaction against this shift, as some men feel too confined within the gender roles. It could also be considered a means of establishing greater equality between the sexes through a shift toward androgyny.

Changes in culture and attitudes toward masculinity, visible in the media through television shows such as Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, Queer as Folk and Will & Grace, have changed these traditional masculine norms. Metrosexuals only made their appearance after cultural changes in the environment and changes in views on masculinity.

Simpson explains in his article Metrosexual? That rings a bell... that “Gay men provided the early prototype for metrosexuality. Decidedly single, definitely urban, dreadfully uncertain of their identity (hence the emphasis on pride and the susceptibility to the latest label) and socially emasculated, gay men pioneered the business of accessorising—and combining—masculinity and desirability.”[13]


[edit] The commercial metrosexual

Brad Pitt is another often cited example of metrosexualityIn its soundbite diffusion through the channels of marketers and popular media, who eagerly and constantly reminded their audience that the metrosexual was straight, the metrosexual has congealed into something more digestible for consumers: a heterosexual male who is in touch with his feminine side - he color-coordinates, cares deeply about exfoliation, and has perhaps manscaped.

Men didn't go to shopping malls, so consumer culture promoted the idea of a sensitive guy who went to malls, bought magazines and spent freely to improve his personal appearance. As Simpson put it:

"For some time now, old-fashioned (re)productive, repressed, unmoisturized heterosexuality has been given the pink slip by consumer capitalism. The stoic, self-denying, modest straight male didn't shop enough (his role was to earn money for his wife to spend), and so he had to be replaced by a new kind of man, one less certain of his identity and much more interested in his image – that's to say, one who was much more interested in being looked at (because that's the only way you can be certain you actually exist). A man, in other words, who is an advertiser's walking wet dream."[14]
This commercial vision is also adapted in television’s metrosexual archetype, Bravo’s Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, in which the “Fab Five” instructively transform the appearance of the straight guy—but largely avoid dealing with his personality.

In some contrast, there is also the view that metrosexuality is at least partly a naturally occurring phenomenon, much like the Aesthetic movement of the 19th Century and that the metrosexual is merely a modern incarnation of a dandy.

Another person who confesses to his metrosexuality is Mike Greenberg, co-host of the popular morning sports talk show "Mike and Mike in the Morning" on ESPN Radio. He has many times confessed to being metrosexual and his book Why My Wife Thinks I'm An Idiot has "Confessions of a Metrosexual Sportscaster" on it.

Another person who confesses to his metrosexuality is Dominic Monaghan, star of The Lord of the Rings trilogy and Lost. He has jokinlgy admitted that he "believes he should have been a homosexual - because he loves make-up, painting his nails and wearing skirts", although some would argue that this points more towards transvestism. [15]

Stuff has proclaimed Ryan Seacrest as "the poster boy of metrosexuality."[16]


[edit] Metrosexual Companies
In recent years, a number of brands of emerged to captilise on the market of men that spend substantial amounts of money on their images. Indeed retailers including KJ Beckett and Thomas Pink have seen great success selling their concept to stylish male consumers. Furthermore mens magazines such as GQ and Esquire target men's fashion, style, and culture. Finally brands such as 2(x)ist have emerged and seen great success from marketing to the metrosexual customer.


PS: Dupa cum vedeti a fi metrosexual nu inseamna sa fii barbat casnic (sa faci mincare, sa calci hainele etc), a fi metrosexual inseamna a renunta la calitatile barbatului si a le prelua pe cele ale femeilor. S-o luam in serios, voua fetelor v-ar placea sa aveti un barbat care s-ar certa cu voi pentru bani, coafura, baie cu un aer egoist (metrosexual) sau unul care se comporta serios, si intotdeauna are grija de cei din jur (barbatul adevarat).
Cit in privinta asa-presupuselor calitati femeiesti, fiti serioase, de parca barbatii nu erau intotdeauna mai ingrijiti decit femeile ( din antichitate), de parca noi nu am putut niciodata sa facem curat, mincare bla-bla-bla.


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#52 by AzerothX (†ranœ ºverdosed) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:26:03 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#51 regnumekal, ai baut inainte sa scrii asta? pun pariu k ai dat 2litri de Absinth pe git.


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#53 by cuddles (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:29:26 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#52 AzerothX, nu kred ka el singur a skris-o... Dupa kum vezi e yn engleza, deci pur si simplu e kopiat de pe un site, nu garantez nici makar ka a citit ynainte de a kopia shi a posta pe torrents :wink:



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#54 by Zuker (Poliglot) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:30:28 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#51 regnumekal, wikipedia rules. Trebuia să indici doar linkul. :wink:


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#55 by regnumekal (User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:32:40 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#54 Zuker, N-aveau sa-l citeasca daca aveau sa dau numai link-ul. :)

#52 AzerothX, Tu intii citeste si apoi vorbeste, incepi sa vorbesti ca un metrosexual :rofl:


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#56 by PHUPHULETZ (Miss Torrents.MD 06) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:33:52 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top

cuddles wrote:

...incearka sa atinga perfektziunea fetelor (dar sa rekunoashtem - n-o vor atinge niciodata :-D )


Cine-a zis ca fetele-s perfecte?????


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#57 by Zuker (Poliglot) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:34:19 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#56 PHUPHULETZ, :bravo:


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#58 by Schmidtya (going in the right direction) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:35:57 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#50 AzerothX, zidane e metro! Se fardeaza, foloseshte crema anti riduri si multa alta kosmetica! Iti plac metro-sexualii (shel putsin kum joaka). pi Krazybone nu-l stiu...


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#59 by DIMEX Donor (VIP) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:36:46 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#56 PHUPHULETZ, zachot )


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#60 by ROCKER (i"m crazy | Guardian TMD) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:40:18 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#0 AzerothX, da eu sunt baiat normal de 15 ani care se uita la fete frumoase(ca 6i totzi baietzii normali:) ), a6aka nu am despre ce vorbi In tema asta...:):):):):):):):):):)
Dar despre ce ai spus tu, sunt deacord!:):):):)


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#61 by BananaZ (Keep it SimpLe) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:41:00 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#60 ROCKER, :rofl:


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#62 by Zuker (Poliglot) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:42:08 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#60 ROCKER, хорошый мальчег


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#63 by eXtaZy (Don`t try to fix me, i`m not broken) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:47:45 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#0 AzerothX, ce legatura are homosexualul cu metrosuxualul? incurci ceva: homosexualul e omul care e atras de acelashi sex, pe cand metrosexualul e omul care are grija de de sine, caruia ii place sa arate bine. E un stereotip stupid faptul ca acela care are grija de infatisarea sa e homosexual..
Informeaza`te inainte sa scrii prostii

#0 AzerothX, "... fetelor normale le plac barbatzii , nu papa lapte ..." -
1. pe baza caror fapte,sau argumente  ai determinat ca cel care are grija de infatisarea sa e un papa lapte?
2. Deci dupa concluzia ta, barbatul trebuie sa fie neberberit, nespalat, cu haine botite,..ca un boschetar?? Din contra acei baieti care arata bine capata atentia fetelor.. decat barbatii imbracati in custume, cu pantofi negri, si chepka in cap, ascultand Krug.. :youu:


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#64 by AzerothX (†ranœ ºverdosed) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:52:25 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#56 PHUPHULETZ, eu zic :)

#58 Schmidtya, mie imi place cum joaca , nu cum o face......

#63 eXtaZy, ai vazut vreodata un metrosexual? , daca nu , atunci nu vorbi fara sa shtii....


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#65 by regnumekal (User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:52:42 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#63 eXtaZy,

Quote:

Gay men provided the early prototype for metrosexuality. Decidedly single, definitely urban, dreadfully uncertain of their identity (hence the emphasis on pride and the susceptibility to the latest label) and socially emasculated, gay men pioneered the business of accessorising—and combining—masculinity and desirability




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#66 by AzerothX (†ranœ ºverdosed) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:54:09 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#65 regnumekal, +1 thx


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#67 by cuddles (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:54:58 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#56 PHUPHULETZ, :mda: iskrenne soboleznuiu daka nu rekunoshti o gluma.


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#68 by DIMEX Donor (VIP) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:56:39 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#67 cuddles, Te dai cu fundul la gard, fraza citată am văzut că a fost scrisă cu maximă seriozitate :-P


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#69 by cuddles (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 15:58:25 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#68 DIMEX, daaaa-aaa.... maxima seriozitate....... :D mai ales ka subiektul dat e atyyy-yyt de important pentru mine... :P

p.s. asha , pentru informatzie generala - nu sufar de narcisism shi ku atyt mai mult nu-s feminista, asha ka fara pretentzii :)


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#70 by eXtaZy (Don`t try to fix me, i`m not broken) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 16:03:52 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#64 AzerothX, am vazut metrosexuali.. fiecare in noi e putin metrosexual, sau mai bine zis narcisist, care se iubeste singur pe el, si cel care se iubeste pe el, o sa vrea tot timpul sa arate bine.. narcisizm=metrosexual.. intr-o mika masura...
Uite spre exemplu baietii de pe la disco.. sau aia mai bogatashi..care se imbraca bine, poti sa zici de ei ca-s metrosexuali.. dar lor le place sa iasa cu fete..Sa aduc un alt exemplu.. DIma bilan..acelashi metrosexual, multi zic ca e gay..dar din cate stiu eu.. el si pe aceeasi Natalia Gordienco voia sa o aiba..de ce tot timpul tindeti sa judecati dupa aparentze?

#65 regnumekal, nu m-ai convins..


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#71 by regnumekal (User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 16:07:27 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#70 eXtaZy, "... nu m-ai convins ..." - Nici nu trebuia. Ti-am aratat afirmatia unui analist social a carui serviciu in asta si consta, si nu a unui tractorist de pe dealul Sadovei.


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#72 by AzerothX (†ranœ ºverdosed) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 16:08:17 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#70 eXtaZy, nu spun ca sunt metrosexualii sunt gay dar 100% arata asha :)

baietzii de la disco itzi spun cinstit sunt baietzi , nu fetitze...... , dak mai sunt vro 2-3 cu 2 curve in bratze ......


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#73 by eXtaZy (Don`t try to fix me, i`m not broken) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 16:11:53 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#72 AzerothX, pai eu si asta zic.. ca dak ei arata asha.. asta nu inseamna ca ei sunt gay.. ca tot timpul aparentele inseala :girlwink:


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#74 by WildCat (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 16:14:40 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#50 AzerothX, "... voi fetele nu ar trebui sa apreciatzi look-ul barbatzilor , ar trebui sa v-il apreciatzi pe al vostru ..." - atunci si voi, baietii, sa nu va uitati dupa fetite frumoase in fuste scurte si sa va catati de treaba, cum sa fii mai barbat...

Prostii spui!!! Fiecare tre' sa arate bine si ingrijit!

Zuker, sa-ti vopsesti genele nu e treaba barbatilor! Cum spuneam, sunt PRO metrosexualismului, dar acelui normal, care nu este paranoic!


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#75 by monitoring (User) (0 mesaje) at 2007-06-11 16:15:18 (884 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#48 WildCat, "... Srghei Zverev. ..." - anek : sta Ala cu kerkorav la frezarie. ... Alei i se face marafet in cap ....kirkorav:- Ala eu sunt un superstar ... Ala: - superstar sunt eu dar tu esti un 4mo ... Kirkorav: -Ala eu sunt un superstar uite la mine ... :) ... Ala : - tu esti un 4mo ... esti renumit datorita mie ...da eu pot din orice 4mo sa fac om ...makar si din 4mou ista kare ma keaptana .... Astfel a auzit lumea de S.Zverev... :pardon:


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