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By BunaZiuaLaToti (User) (0 mesaje) at 2024-01-04 16:58:17 (45 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]
#217888 TD5, este,da nu-i fan Varcelona




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#154726 by serhioFCB (respect others) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 19:32:21 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
"Манчестер Юнайтед" готов заплатить 15 млн евро за Алекса Сонга


trebue de-l dat


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#154727 by gianakisDisabled (TMD STAFF (NO) (1 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 19:42:42 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154758 serhioFCB, "... de-l ..." - vorba lu rîțari ;D


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#154728 by System at 2014-04-15 19:45:05 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154757 Hary_Agent, "... imi aduce aminte de forma din sezonul 2008/09)) ..." - sperăm să fie la fel de norocoasă :D


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#154729 by Hary_AgentDisabled (Uploader) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 19:48:02 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Are cineva un abzor HD la finala Ligii Campionilor din 2010/11 ?


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#154730 by Cash (Mr. Worldwide) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 20:05:15 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154754 henry09, am citit ca sansele pentru Pique de a evolua miine sunt minime


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#154731 by Kerdic (VIP) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 20:31:09 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top


Zlatan Ibrahimovic's brother has passed away.our thoughts are with him and his family. Stay strong IBRA :rip:

Martino on Messi : “There is no way that I think any player should bring more than another, each must give their all for the team.”

Martino: “From what I have seen at training today Bartra is much better. But no player will play unless he is ready."

Martino: “We have no problem with spirit ahead of the game. The problem is footballing one, and our chances depend on the football we bring”

Martino: “Im not bothered by [speculation on future]. Its quite logical. First I was gone by Christmas, then by Easter. But Im still here.”

Martino: “It is difficult for Barca to win if they do not play better football than their opponent. That is how they win.”

Martino: "You must be very brave and very honest with football to do what Messi does year after year. Unfair to criticise him for one game."

Martino on future: "For a while now I have had a determined idea and nothing changes. Not with 1 trophy, 2 or 3. Or none."

Iniesta: "The joy of the people when we win is what mootivates us most. To see the Barça fans happy is the best what can happen to us."

Iniesta: “With this team, with these players, many times we have done very well against big teams, in finals, in key moments."

Iniesta: "Everything does not always go perfectly, but you get up and suffer and continue.We have to try for what is left until last breath”

Iniesta: “We all defend together, in our system we need everyone to be good so that it works perfectly. If not it gets difficult."

Iniesta: "The years have passed, but nothing changed. The motivation is the same as my first final, whether Champions or the Copa."

Iniesta: "We might have had bad moments, but we must put them aside, not think about anything except this 90 minutes, this game, this trophy"

Iniesta: "If you analyse the season from July until now, incredible things have happened, strong things, impossible to manage for everyone."

Iniesta: "The bar has been put very high as we have achieved things that no other team has done for a long time.”

Iniesta: "Messi has set the bar so high that it seems if he does not score twice in a game he has not play well."

Iniesta: “Cristiano is a very important player for them, for his play, his goals. But we do not play differently if he is there or not."

Iniesta: “It is more important for us to play well, to be confident. If we are at the level we can be at, we have a big chance to win."



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#154732 by XSpyder (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 21:38:02 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Speram ca Puyol sa-si dea toata straduinta in meciul de maine. Vamos el Capita :derpthumb:


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#154733 by Kerdic (VIP) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 21:40:39 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
So what if he is... (despre Messi)


The metric that Lionel Messi ran 6.8 kilometers the other evening has produced a lot of chatter. A favorite narrative theorizes the Argentinian captain is protecting himself for the 2014 FIFA World Cup beginning in 60 days. Well, so what if he is?


What Leo Messi has done for FC Barcelona is indisputable, incomparable. He has been the catalyst which sparked the club into global superstardom. If not for his childhood growth deficiency, if not for Argentina’s turn of the millennium financial meltdown, Messi would never have ended up at La Masia, he may never have played for Barcelona. If not for Joan Lacueva personally forking out thousands of euros for Messi’s treatments while the rest of the club’s directors were dillydallying around “not paying what they promised” and in turn angering the Messi family, if not for Carles Rexach imploring that he be signed much to the chagrin of the majority at the club, if not for Leo himself deciding to remain at the club when presented by his father the opportunity to return with his beloved family back to Argentina, the reality is most of you may never be reading these words. Ronaldinho got Barça standing again, but make no mistake, Messi is why Barcelona rule football’s roost. He has given everything and more for the blaugrana colors, and as former club vice-president Ferran Sorriano remembers “we knew the value of the player, we were aware of his value on the football pitch, and we were conscious too that he had never asked for anything.”

Above and beyond everything Lionel Messi is his own person. He has personal hopes, fears, goals and dreams; like everyone else. He has achieved much already: multiple winner of every possible club competition, an Olympic gold, record Ballon d’Or haul, setter and breaker of innumerable records, FC Barcelona’s all-time goal scorer at 26. The vast majority has been with Barça, yet it’s as if he hasn’t given enough, as if enough is never enough. Messi’s successes in Catalonia came with a cost back home. Leo Messi is Argentinian. To him, “Rosario is everything.”

Argentinians enjoy glossing over the fact that a 12 year old Lionel Messi and his family only left because multiple local clubs undervalued his talent and point-bank denied him the medical treatment he desperately needed and his father could not afford. Regardless, Messi’s heart burned to play and win for Argentina. The player anointed Diego Maradona’s true successor wasn’t producing for the albiceleste like he was for the blaugrana. But instead of honest reflection and logical analysis concerning inexplicable tactics, locker-room politics and indefensible team selection, no more so than under El Diego himself, Argentina turned on him. And not only the general public, even those within the dressing room. The infamous Juan Román Riquelme and Messi share a birth date. At the 2006 World Cup, a 19 year old Messi decided to join the veteran’s birthday shindig and was promptly told, “Idiot! Don’t you know how to knock! You’re going to have to learn to knock on a door! Who the f**k do you think you are?”

Fast-forward a couple of years, Argentina were again struggling under post World Cup boss Coco Basile, and Diego Maradona was angling for the albiceleste job. Guillem Balague writes that “in a calculated initiative”, Maradona “singled Leo out as the culprit for the team’s poor performances. With the attitude of those who believe they are always right, he created a general mistrust of Messi in the minds of the average Argentine fans, who took Maradona’s words as gospel.”  El Diego said Messi “lacked character“, “Messi plays for Messi” and “he has so much arrogance that he forgets his team-mates.” Lacks character? Selfish? Arrogant?

The first time in his life Messi was nervous was not his first-team debut, not a clutch encounter at the Santiago Bernabéu nor the day of a Champions League final; it was the night he met Diego Maradona on a television program. Fathom Maradona’s importance to Messi, now imagine how Messi felt hearing those outlandish accusations from his hero. The Argentinean press called him “the foreigner“, a “traitor“, described Maradona the “flag” and Messi “a poster.” Fans booed him. Messi describes all this as his most difficult personal battle. It deeply hurt him; then it angered him. So much so he seriously considering quitting the national team. But of course, he couldn’t. Messi is no coward.

Frankly it’s insanity all this transpired. And it did. A nation tried its utmost to hate their best player in 30 years, for many the best footballer never mind Argentinian ever. But Messi loves Argentina. He’s been in Spain 15 years and still speaks with the thickest Argentinean accent. In his youth he found comfort at Argentine restaurants in Barcelona or the homes of his countryman. One of Messi’s closest friends in Barcelona, reporter Cristina Cubero, has “always said that Leo is the most Argentine footballer from Argentina” she’s ever known.

Messi has given absolutely everything for FC Barcelona. Gerard Piqué bears testament that Messi has played with his ankle “f••ked” countless times because the team looks to him. Following his injury last year against Paris Saint-Germaine, he and Juanjo Brau trained eight hours a day for eight days straight with the sole objective of Messi playing just 15 minutes (at the absolute maximum 35) in the return leg. He hasn’t done enough for Barça? All his Barça success illogically was envied, practically despised in Argentina and for years the country he holds so dear branded him a turncoat. So what if he’s consciously or subconsciously cautious with the most defining month of his career on the horizon. The biggest challenge for professionals returning from significant injury is not the physical healing, it’s the mental aspect. It’s the trust that needs to be placed in a body that has now failed them. All arguments countering Messi being the undisputed best of all time hinge solely (and unfairly) on a World Cup victory. In Brazil, Messi will be essentially the same age Maradona was when he won his one and only World Cup. Messi genuinely believes that 2014 is his moment, his World Cup.

Messi isn’t even close to the first star player to look ahead to a tournament that professionals get two, maybe three, if extremely gifted/lucky four shots at. Nor will he be the last. Additionally, any notion of him slacking is utter baloney. He hasn’t managed to score this season against Atlético Madrid? Only one other player has; twice in 450 minutes. Is he always the one that must pull Barça out of the fire? Messi has scored 17 league goals in 2014 since returning from injury, that’s more than any other player in Europe’s top 5 leagues (@MessiStats). It was even admitted from the horses mouth that at the Vicente Calderón Messi was instructed to conserve his energy for moments he could be decisive; he was instructed not to run around and press endlessly. Messi never has nor ever will be lazy.

This isn’t a new phenomenon either. When Pep Guardiola took over in 2008, he specifically focused on finding a reason for Messi’s incessant injuries. Studies of Messi’s morphology uncovered that his muscles were shorter than normal and were also unique in their “very high energy consumption.” That results in his muscles emptying themselves extremely quickly, meaning he must rest them before the next burst. That muscle we’ve heard so much about, the femoral biceps, is what drives acceleration and the changing of pace. It is said muscle that Barça have known is Messi’s chief injury risk and as Ballague exposes, Guardiola and club trainers specifically instructed Messi to rest between plays, to not press like the others. His teammates both know and understand that. Guardiola also had to force him to reduce his effort at training. As Ballague writes, Messi is “expected to expend his energies more sparingly” as it was “explained to him he could not permanently be looking for excellence in every passage of play.”

Guardiola explained to Messi that he could at times be more important in 20 minutes than 90, that he wanted to rest him more. “Leo did not accept that.” He didn’t accept that because Messi is the ultimate competitor, the type that comes around but a few times. He refused sitting down because he has an irrepressible will to win, because “he understand football…as a collective effort“, and that stubbornness is the reason millions of culé dreams have come true over the past decade. Messi suffered these recent recurring injuries because he pushes himself so hard, as you’ve just learnt did so against the advise of important people from the club, and he did it because partly athletes of his calibre cannot control their will to win, they need to feel invincible, but also for, hello, Barça. Messi loves FC Barcelona.

He however is an individual. Messi has done more than enough for Catalonia and for Barça. I know all the counter arguments, all boring and irrelevant. Yes, Messi has been paid handsomely for his efforts, but FC Barcelona have made countless of millions euros more off Messi than vice-versa. The club has always gotten it’s monies worth. Every cent is handed over more than willingly. He has regularly rejected exceedingly greater sums from afar; Jorge Messi confirming an offer from Russia of 32 million euros per annum. Just because these people earn gargantuan sums, it doesn’t change two realities: club football is a job and these athletes are people. Why is humanity flippantly brushed aside in big time sport? After absolutely everything, is Messi not entitled to consider his own ambitions, his own nagging desires? So many million Barça dreams fulfilled beyond the wildest of expectations, are his any less important? The answers are yes and no respectively.

The Messi family would never have left Rosario if not for unique circumstances, circumstances that Barça have historically benefited from. So what if Lionel Messi is quite understandably distracted by a defining, if successful iconic, moment of his life? He has accepted the responsibility of carrying a club and country on his shoulders, never shied away and delivered with unrivaled production, especially for Barça. Yet for all the Messindependencia chatter, merited or not, Messi has always felt the weight of Argentina heavier. The country’s decades of lamentation, of yearning for the next Pelusa were projected forcefully onto La Pulga. In August he will be back to fight for Barça, and if the club and it’s often incomprehensible “supporters” haven’t shot themselves in the foot by then, he’ll be there again in 2015, and again in 2016, and again until the day he inevitably returns to “his everything“, to Rosario, to Argentina.

Source: Quotes and pertinent facts from Guillem Balague’s “Messi”


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#154734 by serhioFCB (respect others) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 21:59:50 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Проблема Милана в Барселоне

То, что происходит сейчас в Барселоне, предлагаю разложить по фактам (если таковы возможны при высказывания мнения). С одной стороны, команда не показывает ту игру, к которой привыкли ее болельщики в последнее время – эпоху тренерства Райкаарда-Гвардиолы. Команда перестала пополнять клубный музей главными трофеями. Это свидетельствует о спаде Барселоны.

С другой стороны – правы будут и те, кто скажет, что о таком «спаде» абсолютное большинство европейских клубов и их болельщики могут только мечтать: ¼ ЛЧ, финал Кубка Короля, 1-3 место примеры. Ничего себе, спад!..

Команда эпохи Райкаарда-Гвардиолы подняла планку настолько, что опустив ее на прежний уровень, игру и результат клуба оценивают как спад и кризис.

Помню, как у меня, считающего себя болельщиком Барселоны, в конце периода команды дрим-тим Пепа, проскальзывало желание быстрее увидеть, как клуб будет выходить с ситуации, когда клуб начнет возвращаться с небес, на сколько этот процесс будет безболезненный и какие шаги будет предпринимать его руководство.

Это время началось. Проблема глубокая. Не зря я упомянул в названии Милан. Ведь итальянский клуб уже сталкивался с похожей ситуацией. После успешных нескольких сезонов, миланский клуб погряз в проблеме: что делать с лидерами команды – Индзаги, Амброзини, Неста, Зеедорф, Гаттузо, Мальдини, Дида?.. Заниматься распродажей – не гуманно (все помним всемирную критику Реала за «уход» Йерро и Рауля) и уж больно резко может сказаться на игре и ее результатах.

Сохранить лидеров, обновить косметически состав и идти дальше – наверное, единственный путь в такой ситуации. Косметика может быть разная. Вильянова, Роура, Мартино – косметологи.

После проиграно матча на «Висенто Кальдерон» на Тата Мартино не накидывался только ленивый. На форуме barcamania.com, посвященному этому матчу, как только не высказывались в отношении аргентинского энтренадора.

«Сегодня я осознал,что нам нужен тренер.Какой тренер, такой и уровень показонного футбола.Сегодня Мартино был переигран молодым тренером полностью.

Надеюсь руководство решит все летом.Мы суперклуб и тренер нам нужен квалифицированный»

«Все по делу. Убогая игра, нужно доиграть сезон и искать тренера»

«Тата есть Тата, ну не его уровень Барса, пусть просто едет домой, он там герой, а здесь просто другой уровень, даже нет тренерской идее, не чего нового не принес, если игроки не искрят ,то зажги их, ты же тренер, Тата домой, руководство вон, мы застоялись нет прогресса, чистка рядов нужна»

«С таким составом играть на 3 фронта? Без нормального тренера умеющего настраивать на игру?»

«верните райкаарда и он вам сделает команду»

«Мартино - тренер академик, не способный настраивать команду на такие матчи, как на последний бой»

«Я считаю, что поражение полностью на Мартино, тактически проиграл он эти два матча, не смог подготовить команду должным способом, рассчитать силы, не смог переломить ход игры походу матча»

«Достаточно странные, порой необъяснимые действия Мартино (чего только стоит сегодняшняя замена Иньесты) для меня лично сигнализируют о том, что тренер он для нас не подходящий, не то чтобы плохой, просто не подходящий»

Это всего лишь капля в море негативных отзывов в адрес тренера.

Кого только не сватают болельщики команды к себе в тренера: Липпи, Дель Боске, Хитцфельд, Мартинес, Клопп, Де Бур, Луис Энрике, Райкаард, Симеоне, и даже Магата с Фулхэма выдергивать начали.

А мог ли Тата сделать для команды нечто большее? Возможно, да. Например, больше доверять кому-то из молодежи. Но при этом никто не скажет конкретно кому именно. Марку Бартра, разве что. Возможно, стоило бы больше показывать жесткие меры по отношению к лидерам. Мало ли, что еще мог бы. Но если бы это могло изменить рисунок игры, то не результат.

Назначьте сейчас Клопа или Симеоне, у таких игроков как Хави, Иньеста, Месси, Вальдес, Пике, Бускетс, Дани Алвеш навряд ли загорятся глаза к победам также как у Ройса, Левандовски, Мхитаряна, Гроскройца, Шмельцера, Арды Турана, Коке, Диего Косты, Година, Куртуа и других лидеров команд, никогда и близко не державших тех наград, которые в карманах у игроков Барселоны.

Проблема такая есть и решается она ни одним сезоном, ни одним трансферным окном, ни одним тренерским назначением.

Хотим мы этого или нет, но нам предстоит путь (надеюсь не результат, а только путь) Милана: косметически менять состав и подбирать тренеров-косметологов, которые, не нарушая атмосферу в коллективе, сумеют в нужный момент воспользоваться осечкой конкурентов и будут вырывать для клуба периодически престижные титулы. Как престарелый звездный Милан Карло Анчелотти.

Возможно, Тата и неплохой вариант для Барселоны на следующий сезон. А что, в раздевалке все нормально, грубых ошибок допущено не было. Реал обыгран дважды. Ниже определенного уровня не опустились, а вновь взлететь в облака – сейчас нереально.

Верю Кройфу, который сказал, что «в Барсе 4 года уже как тренер не руководит».

Каким путем пойдет руководство клуба – покажет время. Но я верю, что рано или поздно команда снова вернется в облака, пройдя путь per aspera ad astra.

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#154735 by ticiStain (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:20:50 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Андре Пирло: «Я бы пополз на четвереньках в «Барселону»  :derpsmile:


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#154736 by nicastar (MDDr) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:23:00 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154765 Kerdic, bun articol, logica explicatia si credca nu mai are rost de speculat "mersul" lui pe teren.


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#154737 by LilSfeet ( 1.14) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:27:58 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Sport: Возможные приобретения Барселоны этим летом.



Мечта  :derphappycry:


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#154738 by iSDDisabled (20) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:33:46 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154737 LilSfeet, fundasi si mai buni se vor gasi da Reus nu ne trebuie...


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#154739 by System at 2014-04-15 22:41:55 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154770 iSD, cred ca ar juca pe pozitia lui Sanchez destul de bine


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#154740 by Ultragiga99 (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:42:33 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154770 iSD, rotatie perfecta in atac


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#154741 by Marquez Postban (Tito, per sempre etern!) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:44:32 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154771 Dexterr, Alexis joacă pe dreapta, Reus pe stînga.


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#154742 by System at 2014-04-15 22:46:44 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154773 _PistolAnatolie_, "... Alexis joacă pe dreapta, Reus pe stînga. ..." - pai vreo citeva zile in urma spuneati ca poate juca si pe dreapta


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#154743 by Marquez Postban (Tito, per sempre etern!) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:48:46 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154742 Dexterr, eu precis că n-am zis asta.

Eu b în apărarea aș vrea pe cineva tînăr, Musacchio, Mangala, Laporte, Inigo Martinez....


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#154744 by LilSfeet ( 1.14) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:48:57 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
Reus очень универсальный игрок в основном играет правого вингера, идеально впишется в полузащиту ( плеймейкера )

Тоже считаю что вместо Thiago Silva дожны брать Мангалу...


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#154745 by System at 2014-04-15 22:50:06 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154775 _PistolAnatolie_, "... Inigo Martinez. ..." - :derpthumb:


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#154746 by Peteaphantom (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:50:29 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154769 LilSfeet, "... Возможные приобретения Барселоны этим лето ..." - mdaaa chiar ca un vis!!! :)


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#154747 by System at 2014-04-15 22:51:02 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
cind va fi judecata? :question:


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#154748 by System at 2014-04-15 22:56:09 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
spoate și pe Fontas de-l adus...dacă nu mai aveți candidați :look:


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#154749 by Marquez Postban (Tito, per sempre etern!) (0 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:59:40 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154744 LilSfeet, "... в основном играет правого вингера ..." - de obicei el joacă pe stînga, nu pe dreapta, și se mai mută și pe centru uneori.


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#154750 by gianakisDisabled (TMD STAFF (NO) (1 mesaje) at 2014-04-15 22:59:44 (553 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]Top
#154780 KnightAndrey, are jucare 50 meciuri parca, era vorba ca dupa 50 meciuri nu mai e in arenda, da automat se vinde


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